178 Sweaty and Chunky

Dan, Dave, and Geoff are back after missing Monday’s show due to some little football game going on the evening or something. We open the show to recap the Lions’ “resurgence” against the fighting Hundleys at Lambeau Field. The Pistons are 8-3?! What the hell does that mean since the NBA season doesn’t really start until Christmas. We tell you all of the things that Sammy Sosa is whiter than, and give you a special College Only edition of the picks with tons of de facto playoff games taking place this weekend.

Out of Bounds Detroit Episode 176- Midseason Out of Form

Dan, Dave, and Mike are back to deliver another rousing Monday Show. We open with the Lions’ loss to the Steelers…at home…after a bye. We get Jake Chapman from Pistons.com on the horn to discuss the Pistons’ hot start, what’s going right, what could go wrong, and yes…Andre Drummond! We Give you Fourth and Medium. And Who is the hottest of the original Kardashian clan now? Kylie and Kendall are excluded from this competition.


Andre Drummond Getting A Breath of New Life

Andre Drummond wasn’t right last season, and it stemmed from his college days at UConn.

On Oct. 28 2011, Drummond was accidentally hit in the nose by then freshman Brendan Allen who just made the team as a walk-on, and was immediately sent for tests. After getting X-Rays and tests, it was determined he had a mild concussion and a broken nose forcing the then freshman to wear a mask for several weeks allowing the nose to heal naturally.

After playing for four seasons with one nostril, Drummond decided to do something about it, and get it fixed through surgery.

“It took until last season for me to realize how bad it got. I literally couldn’t breathe in games. I couldn’t fall asleep for long periods of time because I was actually choking at night. It was tough,” the 6-foot-11 center said.

“I broke my nose in college and it gradually got worse over the years. I didn’t know how bad it got until my doctor asked how I played like that (with one nostril). I’m just happy I got it done.”

For Drummond having two nostrils has been a blessing even though it added some extra work in the off-season shedding close to 30-pounds.

“Having two nostrils is definitely a blessing. Being able to breathe again is great. I’m able to workout harder. I’m able to sleep better. I can smell things again. Things are good,” he said, noticeably thinner.

“I think I weigh about 285 (the roster has him at 279). I lost about thirty pounds or so from last year, and I’m definitely feeling it. I’m moving quicker, jumping higher. I just feel great overall. When I had my nose surgery, I wasn’t 100-percent breathing clear. I had to push through the wall of being able to use my nose again. I did a lot of conditioning to get myself in tip-top shape.

“I know I can’t run like I did during the season, so I also changed how and what I eat. I needed to get creative to keep that weight down, while keeping myself ready to play.”

Drummond has a new lease on life, and he wants to let it shine through this season. He says that the year he had in 2016-17 wasn’t an accurate representation of who he is. He also said that he took that slap on the wrist as a wake up call.

“There is no time to bull**** or anything like that. Everybody’s window is short in this league. I needed to make sure I took each and every day and be the best I can be,” he added. “For me, I put so much pressure on myself to focus more on my free throws. I spent all summer working on my game. I took the time to really develop that aspect and others. I just have to trust that I’ve done what I’ve needed to do to get better, and not dwell on the past.”

Drummond also had time to see the new Little Caesars Arena this off-season, and thought the arena looked more like a hockey arena than a basketball arena. But coach Stan Van Gundy said that he thinks Drummond’s opinion will change once the season begins.

“If you walk into the arena and the ice is down, yeah it looks like a hockey arena. So does the Palace when the ice is down. When the court is up, it’s a basketball arena, just like Staples Center, Madison Square Garden, the United Center, and a lot other places,” Van Gundy offered.

“I haven’t talked to him about it, but I think his opinion will change when he’s playing in it.”

Drummond did walk back his comments on Monday as well saying that he went down there a few times and saw a lot of hockey stuff and that it didn’t feel like home.

“I understand we’re sharing the space, but we have to be represented somewhere. I was just speaking from a place of emotion. I thought there’d be more Pistons stuff,” he said. “Maybe I’m looking at it in a wrong angle because everything isn’t done yet. Obviously when the season starts, and we’re playing there my views will probably change. But at the time, that’s how I felt.”


Pistons Players Offer Sign of Support to NFL, NBA

During the Golden State Warriors’ media day on Friday, Steph Curry doubled down on his stance that he wouldn’t be going to the White House to celebrate the Warriors’ NBA championship.

“That we don’t stand for basically what our president … the things that he said and the things that he hasn’t said in the right terms that we won’t stand for it. And by acting and not going, hopefully that will inspire some change when it comes to what we tolerate in this country and what is accepted and what we turn a blind eye to,” he said.

“It’s not just the act of not going. There are things you have to do on the back end to actually push that message into motion. You can talk about all the different personalities that have said things and done things, from [Colin] Kaepernick to what happened to [Michael] Bennett to all sorts of examples of what has gone on in our country that we need to kind of change. And we all are trying to do what we can, using our platforms, using our opportunities to shed light on that.

“ … I don’t think us not going to White House is going to miraculously make everything better … [but] this is my opportunity to voice that.”

During Monday’s media day, the Detroit Pistons also weighed in with their thoughts about Curry’s stance, and the NFL players who protested en masse during Sunday’s national anthems.

“I thought what the NFL did was commendable. Those guys did it as a team. Whatever you believe in, whatever you’re behind, all 53-men might not be of the same accord. They might not agree with everything. But when you have each other’s back that goes a long way. It brings us together,” guard Ish Smith said.

“We’re doing this for entertainment. We’re not saving lives. We’re not doctors or lawyers. But for three hours, or two and a half hours, if we can bring people from all walks of lives together, that’s what sports does. I’m happy to be a part of that, and I commend the NFL for doing what they did.”

Anthony Tolliver, who was brought in this past offseason after playing with the Sacramento Kings last season, offered his thoughts as well as saying the Pistons may do a protest of their own this season. The Pistons last year, stood with their arms locked last season after ex-49-er Colin Kaepernick took a knee last season.

“We haven’t had a chance to really discuss it as a team, but we will. We’ll make a decision as a team or individually. At the end of the day, we’re in this together whether it’s one guy, two or all five. We’re all on the same page and we’re together as brothers,” Tolliver said.

“As far as the NFL is concerned, it is what it is. Some guys knelt, and other guys stood. As long as those guys aren’t alienating their teammates, as long as they’re not doing something to put a negative light on their team, I don’t view it as a negative thing.

“Those guys are doing what they feel is right. And you should always do that. I don’t care what color you are. If you do what you feel is right, then you’re doing the right thing. Unfortunately some people are offended by it. But, a lot of people were offended by people sitting at a lunch counter. A lot of people were offended by Rosa Parks and whether she sat in the back, or the front of the bus, or anywhere on the bus.

“Sometimes being offensive isn’t the wrong thing. That’s their decision to do that, and I respect it.”

Point Guard Reggie Jackson, who was raised in a military household also added his thoughts.

“Each person is an individual. I don’t think there is anything wrong with having a debate or a discussion. What people are standing up for (by kneeling), that’s something they feel they need to do,” he said.

“It makes me proud as an athlete, that no matter what your stance is, you’re using your platform to try to better the world in whichever way you feel, needs bettering. I appreciate that, and I have appreciation for the military that helps protect those freedoms by laying their lives on the line. To have the fortitude to stand up and say something, or just having a stance is something to be proud of.”

While it is still unknown whether or not the Pistons will offer a visual sign of protest again this season, they have the support of owner Tom Gores who offered a statement via twitter on Monday. They also have support of their head coach in Stan Van Gundy.

The Pistons being training camp on Tuesday with a shoot around at the practice facility in Auburn Hills. They will being the pre-season at home at Little Caesars Arena on Oct. 9 against the Pacers.

Stan Van Gundy Doesn’t Stick To Sports

The shockwave of reactions from President Donald Trump’s attack on NFL players on Friday night has moved beyond the NFL, and now has the NBA’s attention.

First it was calling former NFL QB Colin Kaepernick a “son of a bitch” for kneeling during the national anthem to a crowd of supporters in Alabama. Then it was turned to NBA star Steph Curry who said he wouldn’t visit the White House in February when the Warriors are planning on making the trip to celebrate their NBA championship. The president rescinded the invite on Saturday morning via twitter.

On Monday during the Pistons’ media day coach Stan Van Gundy offered his words of support for the NFL players that decided to exercise their right to free speech by taking a knee, or staying in the locker room, or standing with arms locked in solidarity, or those who sat on the bench during the national anthem.

“While it is unfortunate that our current president has made our national anthem a divisive issue, the positive is that people are now talking about some very important problems,” his statement read.

“There are serious issues of inequality and injustice in this country. People of conscious are compelled to oppose racism, sexism, and intolerance of people of different sexual identities and orientation wherever and whenever they see it. I stand with those opposing bigotry. I, as an individual, and the Detroit Pistons as an organization, support diversity, inclusion, and equality. I was proud of the statement that our owner Tom Gores released this morning.

“I applaud, the professional athletes using their platform to voice their opinions. I encourage our players to be engaged, involved citizens. Peaceful protest is a hallmark of our democracy, and has been an impetus for social change throughout our history. While people can differ on the issues, no one should seek to discourage freedom of speech. The athletes involved in these protests should be respected for exercising their rights of free speech in an appropriate and non-violent manner.”

On whether there would be a form of protest, similar to the locking of arms during the national anthem last season, Van Gundy said it’d be something they would discuss.

“We talked about it a little bit in there among the team,” he added. “They may do something as a group, but each individual needs to make up their own mind as well. We encourage our players to get involved wherever they can.

“I take my job really seriously, but I also take my responsibility as a citizen very seriously. And when I see things I’m opposed to, I’ll usually speak out. While we’ll support our player’s decision to speak out, we’ll also support their right not to.”

Van Gundy also said he didn’t know exactly where it’d take his team, but support from

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the owner on down will be shown in whatever they decide.

He also had a message to the “stick to sports” crowd.

“Couldn’t we say that to virtually anybody, and anything? When you say ‘stick to sports’ what are you saying? As an athlete you’re too stupid to speak out, but it’s ok for business people to speak out? Do you not want anyone to speak out,” he asked.

“Generally, they don’t want anyone who disagrees with them to speak out. But athletes have the

same rights anyone else does. If there is a strength in our democracy, it’s that we are encouraged to exercise those rights and speak out, and to hold people in power in check.

“The stick to sports stuff, I don’t get it. Only our politicians get to speak out? Then everyone else has some sort of job. Stick to sports writing. Stick to camera work. Stick to building a new arena. Who is allowed to speak? If you’re a person in power, and wants to be tyrannical that’s great. Get people to shut everyone down who wants to talk. Then you’re the only ones left standing.

“No. No. We all are compelled to talk. As people of conscious, and you have something that’s important to you…it happened this summer with the Charlottesville situation and them moving the rally to a park. The ACLU was getting killed for that. I’m a big supporter of the ACLU, and I sent a letter to the executive of the local chapter here applauding them.

“You’re either for freedom of speech or you’re not. Democracy is hard. I don’t advocate violence, nobody has the right to that. But everyone has the right to their opinion whether I like it or not. I don’t hear stick to business, or stick to philanthropy if Bill Gates wants to speak out. It’s condescending to athletes, and I don’t agree with it. We have smart, involved guys on this team and in our league who have the right to make their opinion’s known.”